Christian Nationalism Hasn't Anything To Do With Christianity

It is running Rampant in the Middle of the USA & in Radical MAGA propaganda

@ThunderClap said in #1:
> It is running Rampant in the Middle of the USA & in Radical MAGA propaganda
I can say "Amen" to that brother and sister.

youtu.be/6WYseVO29ZU?si=aY7gczdIV2ACCNp1 Bad Faith ............... Very Nasty people

Actually, Christianity and Christian Nationalism are very much related.
The key hint is the word "Christian".

ah yes, Christianity is my favorite nation.

Cool!
Religion AND politics in one top!!!

Seriously I consider such a group a threat to democracy
( yes,I know constitutional republic). I use it in the sense of common interest and common benefits.

Whenever one group decides that our democracy is Their democracy and that they know what is best for all of us ( oddly enough it always seems to be best for them) ,particularly a "religious" group interested in power rather than righteousness before God,the basic tenets of equality are at risk.

Could somebody explain to poor Noflaps what the difference is between "nationalism" and "patriotism" ?

Are they both, like, awful? Or is one tolerable and the other one not, you know, joyful. They don't always sound ominous to me. But admittedly, I lack flaps. And so far as I know, I've never met anybody who actually calls himself or herself a "Christian Nationalist."

Does it means something much more ominous than "patriotic Christian" ? Is it some sort of actual political party? I ask seriously, and would love a serious, informed answer.

But let's go back to not being too serious. Is it okay to relax on July 4? Or should Americans spend all day apologizing?

And what's up with Guy Fawkes Night, Union Jack Day and Victoria Day?

@Noflaps said in #7:
> Could somebody explain to poor Noflaps what the difference is between "nationalism" and "patriotism" ?
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> Are they both, like, awful? Or is one tolerable and the other one not, you know, joyful. They don't always sound ominous to me. But admittedly, I lack flaps. And so far as I know, I've never met anybody who actually calls himself or herself a "Christian Nationalist."
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> Does it means something much more ominous than "patriotic Christian" ? Is it some sort of actual political party? I ask seriously, and would love a serious, informed answer.
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> But let's go back to not being too serious. Is it okay to relax on July 4? Or should Americans spend all day apologizing?
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> And what's up with Guy Fawkes Night, Union Jack Day and Victoria Day?
Per google definitions
patriotism implies support of ones country
"the quality of being patriotic; devotion to and vigorous support for one's country."
nationalism generally implies the support of ones country, to the detriment of others
"identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations."

Patriotism = a country fighting for independence
Nationalism = a country invading others for Lebensraum (aka germany)

Thanks for responding, @salmon_rushdie .

But I must ask. Do you actually think the word "nationalism" necessarily invades a desire to "invade others" ?

Are you sure those are the best. most accurate general definitions?

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Let me see what definitions I can find on the internet, from ordinary, not-at-all apparently political sources:

patriotism: "Patriotism is the feeling of love, devotion, and a sense of attachment to a country or state."

nationalism: "loyalty and devotion to a nation".

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Could it be that you or your sources are somewhat confusing "patriotism" and / or "nationalism" with "jingoism" and / or "chauvinism"?

I've seen nothing in ordinary sources that suggests that nationalism necessarily favors invading others. I do NOT fear invasion by Canadians or by the French, for example, even if they are loyal to and devoted toward Canada or France (or even both!).

Here's more quotes on the definition

“Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first; nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.”

"In other words, patriotism has historically meant a love for and devotion to one's fatherland, or country of origin. Patriotism encompasses devotion to the country as a whole – including all the people who live within it. Nationalism refers to devotion to only one group of people over all others."

"Patriotism generally has a positive connotation. It’s used for various positive sentiments, attitudes, and actions involving loving one’s country and serving the great good of all its people.

Nationalism generally has a negative connotation. It’s used for political ideologies and movements that a more extreme and exclusionary love of one’s country—at the expense of foreigners, immigrants, and even people in a country who aren’t believed to belong in some way, often racial and religious grounds."



Canadians are not nationalist they're patriotic.

France in the early 1800s was nationalist, they are patriotic now.